Then, he crams them all down an oil tank. Yes, people were buying things they could afford, but this That doesnt make sense. It's very hard to lie your way through a mortgage loan process. LOL. Together with the idiotic sheriff from the Jayme Closs story, I cannot help but think, "Holy crap, Law Enforcement in this country is populated with total idiots.". The fact that he didn't anticipate her friends blowing up her phone shows how dumb he is. When their marriage was not going so well, SHANANN poured herself into work, worked a lot and stopped coming home at night. Chris Watts: Complete Cast of Characters | True Crime Rocket Science / #tcrs. John Forbes officiating. Unless theres a strong family history and a red flag symptom, no one that age has a fucking colonoscopy. Why did he hate those little girls so much? The. Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]. The fact that the physician performing her autopsy found "no evidence of disease". All parents would want the best education for their children. Doubtful, and is most likely the second (or third or fourth) time Shanann lies about medical costs to cover her ridiculous spending habits. I thought it was very telling of Scam'Ann's personality: SHE, and she alone, will lord over the money; yet, she was such a financial liability that her name wasn't even on the house (and I'm assuming the mortgage.). @Strawheart, how do you know she didnt kill the little girls? "Last summer, Shanann and her daughters spent six weeks in North Carolina with her parents and brother before returning to the Frederick, Colorado, home she shared with Chris on Aug. 7. I am so very sorry all of this happened but perhaps it gives pause for thought when making decisions. ^ to be fair, Trent Bolte has them all beat in the crazy department. R107, yup yup yup. There was also a history of her old houses sale price. Chris Watts. R39 / r40, can you imagine Shanann hiking? Connect to the World Family Tree to find out, Source: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/192280780/shan_ann-cathryn-rzucek, Jan 10 1984 - Passaic, Passaic, New Jersey, United States, Aug 13 2018 - Erie, Boulder, Colorado, United States, Bella Marie Watts, Celeste Cathryn Watts, Nico Lee Watts, Source: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/192280791/bella-marie-watts, Clifton, Passaic County, New Jersey, United States, Frederick, Weld County, Colorado, United States, Bethesda Cemetery, Aberdeen, Moore County, North Carolina, United States, North Carolina, Mecklenburg County Marriage Index, 1884-2019, Burial of Shan'ann C. King-Watts (Rzucek), Aberdeen, Moore County, North Carolina, United States. I looked on Google Maps, and boy were they right!! Dont forget Primrose Academy the girls $500 a week pre-school. He hasnt touched me all week, kissed me, talked to me except for when Im trying to figure out what is wrong, Shanann explained in another text. Idk how that bitch is still getting TV interviews after the cops were likeyeah this is bullshit. How did they swing this house?! However his mistress and HER boyfriend (Jim Gotuski), should also be in prison for the rest of THEIR lives. R109: if Shannnanon filed for divorce claiming adultry, pregnant with 2 children under 5, shell get what she wants. Excellent observation, R228. Reinventing the spelling of a name is for high school kids. No matter what most people do not resort to killing. No wonder murder seemed like a reasonable option. Of course, I could make up a few believable stories about someone like this, too. Her folks referred to her as Shannan at Chris's sentencing and she was named in thar lawsuit against the rim shop as Shannan King (her first husband's surname). For anyone who hasn't read it here's his CBI interview copied/pasted directly from the Discovery: CBI Agent GALBRAITH interviewed LEONARD KING by phone on 08/15/2018. It doesnt matter what her past mistakes may or may not have been. But the whole "act of passion" angle doesn . I notice other than no longer wanting to be with him, he had nice things to say about her, she was a hard worker, people liked and were drawn to her and she got along well with them. \ 25 FEB-3 MARCH 2023 More adventures in \ } i " Back for the final series the Star Wars galaxy SRY. Her husband should have left her & divorced her, or never married her in the first place. It's 2:50 am and I can't sleep. American Murder: The Family Next Door quickly brings viewers inside the world of the Watts family, thanks in a huge part to pictures, posts, and videos from Shanann Watts' social media pages.After introducing the mother of two and her family via clips of holidays and other family moments, the documentary drops a bombshell on viewers: In May of 2018, Shanann revealed to her husband, Chris Watts . Do you know where she's at?" Watts wife was 15 weeks pregnant. SHANANN was in high school when LEONARD first met her. Thank you all for this thread. This baby in my belly deserves his full love, she texted her friend, who had advised her to go through Chris phone for signs of infidelity. Divorced and hanging out at da club promoting the rim shop. That is a comment that should never have been said; parenthood is exhausting and social media never forgives human missteps. He had heard about the case in which SHANANN and her children were missing. Chris was a real bore, apparently. There was no one in Shananns life that she didnt make use of. Jesus Christ dangling from the cross what is wrong with some of you. Why did her kids always have parallel medical problems? Perhaps they were close at one time. He was so clinical in throwing away his wife (understandable) but the kids? Shan'ann Watts tells her husband: "I don't want a video of you" while recording her children Chris Watts Case: What would Sherlock Holmes Do? But that's a lot to expect from some people's mental faculties I guess. Watts repeatedly talks about the murder of Shanann as this moment where he snapped because she supposedly threatened to take the kids away from him. Her friend tried to soothe her, to no avail. And he killed Cece right next to Bella in the backseat. I also think she used her physical hardships once again to play on his sympathies, sort of like a book of struggles, but he had already turned a deaf ear. In the early morning hours of August 13, 2018, a young mother returned home from a business trip. Imagine sitting in a house you cannot afford with two kids and another on the way, and a wife who spends money like it is going out of style and who keeps texting you non-stop about why you aren't responding to her texts, etc.essentially, he married a harpie. The MIL was a cunt to her, too, but I think its because MIL recognized a fellow manipulator. There were rumors that they were defrauding employees using payroll/benefit scam. And it was mostly consumer debt, no? No, not at all R256. Not that he should have killed them, but she was a cunt to him and then when she realized he wasnt going to take it anymore, she backpedaled furiously. That was the elusive diagnosis that put them in debt this time. A Ryan Murphy miniseries on this needs to happen. R59: Why is there a photo of a black woman and child on the shelf? Interestingly, she (allegedly) dated Chris, and was supposed to tak about what he was like, but all she talked about was Shabann. I dont have anything bad to say about her non-scam job at a call center in a childrens hospital. He said that she used it constantly when he knew her and she was very well attached to it. ". So does anyone who thinks a guy who murdered his whole family should go free because he's marginally attractive and his murdered wife was annoying. She built it. How much did Shanann have wrapped up in inventory? I think he did the world a favor by offing her. That whole stunt with the MIL was something my mother would have done. R230, Guuurrrl, this is the only place we're allowed to talk about her Munchausen's and Munchausen's by Proxy. Shanann was so excited to have her first baby girl. Why does everyone keep saying, 'But back to Shannan?' She was working to provide for family while her husband plotted murder. Grieving husband and father. I thought that we at DL had figured out what likely happened months ago (had pretty good, comprehensive theories about that night that made sense): he covered the girls faces while they were asleep in their beds (possibly even after sedating them) so they quickly died practically in their sleep and never knew that it was daddy who did it. I cant come back like this. She alienated Chris from his friends. Even her poor kids. According to Shananns mother, the surgery on her neck cost them $100. The girls in the tanks, neatly hidden from view. Not sure how often that happens even though Im still friends with my sons ex-wife but it would be very hard not to like her, There is an interview of an ex-girlfriend . LEONARD agreed to share my contact information with his wife for her to call, if she knew anything about SHANANN, possibly through Thrive.". The husband looks hot, she's not, R3, whoever she is. Or was he completely oblivious and just filled with utter rage at Shannan and her doppelgnger kids dissing him? He knows his wife is in CONSTANT contact with her friends. They declared bankruptcy a couple of years ago, and, in 2018, they were already in debt to the tune of almost 500K. shanann watts first marriage shanann watts first marriage (No Ratings Yet) . LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN married in 2002/2003 and divorced in 2007/2008 in SC. He's remarried with children; and also suffered the devastating loss of his younger brother in 2016. Words have devastating consequences. I agree CBH. R58 even sounds offended that they don't meet his standards for child attractiveness. Anyway, its amazing that theres another chapter to this story; I wonder what the CO investigators could have possibly flown out to Wisconsin to hear, or what Chris could possibly think is big enough to have them come out there for. Im linking the other active DL thread (focused on Chris Watts) below. R220, did you see that house? The amount received is based on the proportion each ex spouse earns, and the living arrangements for the children, and the poorer spouse gets the difference. R89, what EVIDENCE is there that Shanann had lupus or infertility? Four months after Shanann Watts posted that photo, her husband sits in a jail in Colorado, suspected of killing her, along with their daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. OK, but we're talking about SHAN'ANN now. Written by on 27 febrero, 2023. I thought this thread was entitled 'Let's talk about Shannan Watts' as an excuse to get back to talking about Chris? Theres a story there. Mrs. Watts is the smallest one. $150,000 equity would have been swallowed up by realtor fees leaving the two of them not much. She was determined to stay healthy and with her love for her Celeste, every moment with her was a blessing. LEONARDs current wife, dabbled in Thrive, which was the same employment as SHANANN WATTS. An accomplice would have driven her car out to the site, they would have detonated the explosion and voila. The woman who started googling Chris Watts and Shanann Watts just after the Mead explosion. But Shannon was not normal, since she had her whole materialistic/I and my kiddos are so sick con gig going. I spoke with LEONARD KING by phone on 08/15/2018 at 1427 hours. Watts, who had initially reported them missing and had made a public plea for their return, was arrested as he admitted to killing them. I asked LEONARD about his relationship with SHANANN. When the song ends, Bella blows the candles out on the round cake adorned with a butterfly on the side. But DL is the only forum that doesn't immediately shut down even the slightest criticism of this woman. All his plans were thrown off track. Then lived there as long as she could before filing bankruptcy. I assure you i am not a moron. He was sentenced Monday to. There was never an investigation in the case, therefore its impossible to know who killed Shanann or the little girls. The fact that she had 3 pregnancies when she'd told everyone her Lupus doctor said she'd never have children. Just the fact that she texted a friend, mulling about where to move should they divorce, (but not NC for some reason) tells me she was used to getting her own way. Even NK barely talked about what he was like. R84, "asthma" is a generic and very general diagnosis. R147: Shannan was not any of those things. That's idiotic R70. It is so fucking disturbing. She got along well with people. So thats why there was so much debt.. Hello and thank you for being a DL contributor. Long gone are the days where a Dad is left penniless and without children, although so many posters think that is the deal. Someone in one of the threads said they drove through the area and it's pretty barren and underdeveloped. Controlling and always right. She was game to go camping and didnt take five hours to do her makeup and hair and nails. They withdraw and distance themselves. Do there was financial issues going on. And I still think that he lied about some things and left details out of this confession. Shannon too did a lot for the family. He is now Assistant Public Defender Leonard T. King in Laurinburg, NC.The day Chris confessed to her murder, Shananns ex-husband spoke with police and told them the following about their marriage. Here's the latest of countless DL threads on that hot, murdering husband for you, r5. In lieu of flowers memorial donations can be made in memory honoring Shanann to the Lupus Foundation of America at 2121 K Street NW, Suite 200 Washington, DC 20037-1830.or to the Frederick Colorado Police Dept.- Missing Persons Division at PO Box 435 Frederick, CO 80530 or to the St.Judes Childrens Hospital at 501 St. Jude Place, Memphis, TN 38105, Online condolences can be made to www.bolesfuneralhome.com. John Forbes officiating. 500k is insane, no matter what year it was! Watts' wife was 15 weeks pregnant. Shanann's husband, Chris Watts, 33, can be heard singing in the background. She wasn't some hermit shut in who posted incessantly on DL. LEONARD actually did not know SHANANNs last name until a few days ago. A Colorado man has allegedly confessed to killing his pregnant wife and two young children after giving an earlier interview telling a completely different story. What do you mean needed Chris to pay the bills- they both needed each other to pay the bills. I can only imagine the medical problems that Nico would be born with R231, yes! Every quality I listed was well-documented in her videos and texts which revealed her dealings with others, as well as her attitude and perspective. [quote]Of course we can say nice things about her, too. Its for a specified amount of time I believe. Perhaps Chris thought that as well. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.forbisanddick.com/obituaries/Arie-King/#!/Obituary. She was a compelling personality. And it goes beyond coldness eventheres almost like a sadistic quality to the whole thing. LEONARD was unable to get details from her. They had no children from their marriage together and have not communicated in over ten years he estimated. There is never a good enough reason to do what he did. Required fields are marked *. Nothing suspicious, just a little nest that most single women working in retail buy. Watts' wife was 15 weeks pregnant. Is it from medical? Some features on this site require a subscription. to brutally cutting off their air supply & feeling nothing as they grunt and move around under the Yankees blanket struggling to breathe? Everyones awful. I asked about SHANANNs skills in conflict resolution. Chris and Shanann got married on November 3, 2012, in Mecklenberg County, North Carolina. Munchausen's, and Munchausen's By Proxy! Who extends credit to a bankrupt couple living in a gigantic home? I have to wonder if she didnt try to historically get some cash contributions from her parents by asserting she had medical debt. R154: why did Chris have her sell her house, drag her across the country, purchase a $400K house he could not afford in his name only, then murder her and their children? Would you know my name if I saw you in Heaven? Chris is a total hottie, Shanan was a a lucky gal. More than a half year before their affair began. Too bad there wasn't a trial so we can hear it all, because it was too actual to be ignored. I'd consider being three months behind on her mortgage, a husband cheating on her, credit card debt in the tens of thousands at least, and being pregnant were a few of her bigger problems, r51. Maybe she wasnt very good at Munchhausening. He even put her body next to their feet on the floor of the truck with her head & feet covered with *trash bags* and took an hour driving them to the site they would be murdered at. Men are just disposing of women like theyre garbage. The Watts family murders occurred in Frederick, Colorado, United States, during the early morning hours of August 13, 2018. It is known that she did not die until days later. A financial, medical, and emotional con! Clothes, protein bars, vitamin supplements, make-up. I've been following the story somewhat closely, too. That really upsets me. 1. They filed for bankruptcy due to do much debt they had. I should have been tipped off when I saw how close the Watts' house was to Nosy Nate's; they could have passed a cup of sugar without leaving their kitchens. I wrote that R420 post on the last thread, out of ballistic anger at how this confidence woman (conwoman) is getting canonized on other forums. 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