The sun will always shine for us. Like who is the next ethnicity youre going to offend? When I say this, the person might think, Look whos talking, but I would reply, Im a boy and youre a girl, To this, both Kim Shin Young and announcer Gu Eun Young retorted, Why does gender matter in this situation? The post isnt supposed to be the be-all-and-end-all of offensive super junior. I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people(so being black) I decided to some research to find out. Some things aren't even their fault, but ofc they're going to frame it that way (like Wheein saying that she feels like a normal person for making silly faces and people bashing her saying that she's thinking too highly of herself as a celebrity? #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/h0oPUHVyku, Some, naturally, came to Hwasa's defense, pointing out that her, the rest of Mamamoo, as well as their label Rainbowbridge World (RBW), have all apologized or at the very least provided an explanation for their actions in the past. Yet she's okay with that. I only made the post because Ive personally received asks about whether or not there is a Super Junior master post and whether specific members have done anything, and thought itd be easy to compile a list, seeing as thats sorta what this blog is for. I dont think they take care of their bodies well, Performed with Boom, while he was donning blackface, Called N from VIXX fucking trash among many other things, sneaked into a room in which girls were sleeping and touched them, I do not wish to acknowledge homosexuals, that scenario must have looked like a drug deal., Implied negative things about Goo Hara dating around a lot, If someone had to lose weight, I would tell that person to lose weight. 21 Jan 2023, 03:11 AM . Lose some weight, why cant you take care of yourself. I know they've apologized for many of their other problems they faced but seriously, the hate is so overwhelming. True, the haters just don't know them so they judge easily. ga('ads.send', { In the boy groups section, there are fans defending them for everything and even saying things like, "Come back when ___(male idols)__ abuse people, then we'll talk about them being 'problematic'." but its hard not to be. document.querySelector("#google_image_div").addEventListener('click',function(){ Mamamoo is perhaps most widely-known for writing their own music, their electric stage presence, and constant ad-libs often thrown in to make each stage as unique as it can possibly be. I'm not dismissing them or overlooking them, but I know that there was no ill intent in what they did and that they're doing their best. Koreaboo, a digital media company, also reached out to the group because of the incident, and attempted to explain to them exactly why their video was so hurtful. I was enjoying binging 4 years worth of missed content from them but I guess it's inevitable that I stumbled on their controversies and I'll admit it hurt to read so many people hate on them since I was with them when they debut and immediately fell in love. Idols lives are super scrutinized, and I think many people just forget that idols are real people too. Thanks for the reply! Ive privated the post because it was very poorly made and I acknowledge that, however, some of the criticism Im getting is from 1) people who havent actually read the post and 2) people who are refusing to acknowledge some of the things I did include in it. They never went into these situations with the intent of hurting or offending anyone. [3] The Radish Farm (Mamamoo Thread) This is going to be safe space for everyone who wants to talk about Mamamoo. Thank you~). The K-POP idol's vocal talent is considered one of the best in the industry and yet, she continues to receive a great amount of . The most ridiculous thing I have heard it that Hwasa try to be black like how by being Confident and unapologetic about her skin tone, clothing and looks cause she radiates hotness. I feel like my SuJu MP wasnt anywhere near as thorough as the exo one because I have exams at the moment so I was unable to spend as much time on it, so Id really appreciate it if people sent me anything they think I missed. Mamamoo has been dubbed by a lot, especially by antis as one of the most controversial groups in the history of kpop. Nobody is saying you cant like these idols, everybody messes up at some point, but dont call other people sensitive just because you might have a higher tolerance level. A lot seem to be taken out of context and exaggerated. Shaun of @shaun_vids on Twitter said recently in response to another girl's hate storm against her that mirrors the exact same patterns as Mamamoo's, If someone does something worthy of criticism, and that criticism is then directly delivered thousands of times by different people (a section of whom will go much too far and be genuinely abusive), it all just merges into abuse in the perception of the one being criticised.. The next big issue made public came when Solar dressed up as a Korean beggar from Train to Busan (2016) for their next ending concert video. And it appears they still hold her accountable for it, largely owing to past instances of appropriation, such as wearing a durag. Everyone seems to think that the world revolves around them. You need to Register or Login to view the content eventAction: 'click_image_ads' Mamamoo are good, genuine people. not excusing it or defending, but Henry was a little boy from Canada, and that kind of fan service is really odd in general to the West, Id hardly call that problematic. Things not included arent included because they DIDNT happen, stop believing lies told by edgy kpop stans w/o any recipts https://t.co/rBMH79ZvlD, HELP i dont like hwasa but some of yall going a little to far, some of yall preach mental health but pick and choose who that applies too ngl i let out a couples laughs tho#AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/GbxXzX6Fna. 9 Months of Service. And yes I did make an exo masterpost, heres a link. I included links to everything that was on the list (some of which had been deleted - another thing I messed up on big time) and with certain things, I did include a bit of extra information (e.g. Above all, however, Mamamoo is a power-vocal group and strongly celebrated for it, even winning Favorite Vocal Artist at both the 2018 and 2019 MAMAs. One user tweeted, "HELP I dont like Hwasa but some of yall going a little too far, some of yall preach mental health but pick and choose who that applies too. Yet we wonder why idols have to constantly showcase an "image" in order to not upset fans. People @Pr0blematicIdol follows or mentioned can reply Problematic Idols @Pr0blematicIdol Jan 3, 2021 Replying to @Pr0blematicIdol The group officially debuted with their single "Mr. Ambiguous" on June 18, 2014. I'm gonna keep following them and follow my own judgement. This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. Im ironically bad at dealing with conflict, which might make some people question why I started this blog (it was actually an accident, long story), but Ive tried not to let it affect my running of this blog. Probation Faker. We hope that you will help to educate us on these and other issues so that we can become better people and better artists.. Normal version comes with 1 random photocard out of 4. pg.acq.push(function() { } For a lot of other controversies in Korea (like addressing an older person informally), international fans may not understand those issues as well as Koreans and believe that it's no big deal. I have no reason not to trust the 2 Korean-speaking people whove come forward and told me it isnt a mistranslation? My mom would like to know" while another asked, "Is mama Africa a good name for you? ", Where did you get ur African auntie outfit from?? }); Zhoumi laughed about the earthquake of 6.8 magniture that hit Taiwan saying When the earthquake struck just then, it was just like playing. Moreover, Zhou Mi even used last years Si Chuan earthquake as comparison, saying: Last year, when we were promoting in China, we also met an earthquake, and it was pretty happy. And Han Geng who was beside him immediately rushed forward to clarify: He (Zhou Mi) doesnt mean happy. However, it was too late, as everything was already recorded by the media. The controversies surrounding Mamamoo sometimes hurt for sure, because you can tell that theyre pretty genuine in who they are without putting on too much of a show, arent out to get or hurt anyone, and are capable of realizing when they have made mistakes. actually dont feel like fighting that person on their response, so im just letting it go. This resulted in people calling her out as dressing like a black stereotype, and complaining that she was even wearing blackface again, despite the fact that she had no heavily darker makeup on, and was simply rocking her naturally darker skin. Its much appreciated :-), Im KOREAN TOO, and shes lying, i will post a video with the REAL ONE and gonna call you out too.-. Recently the show aired a special live on the YouTube channel of I Live Alone. I hope everybody has a good day/night. Personally, from the time that I've been a fan, Mamamoo has usually apologized/acted contrite for any controversies that they've caused. They wont know the nuances of why what they did is offensive to us and thats why we tell them. Dark smudges of makeup were put on her face to represent dirt that the beggar character had on him, and people accused her of doing blackface for it, even though she was portraying a Korean character, and not someone of African descent. Mamamoo's Hwasa has come under fire more than once after accusations of racism and cultural appropriation. MAMAMOOWA Entertainment2015 Rainbow Bridge World (RBW)MAMAMOOMAMAMOO . Everyday there are tweets wishing for her to die, get beat up, fall out of planes, etc. In terms of overlooking, I'm not sure what is expected since they've apologized for their actions and speech and the apologies have been pretty prompt. (Photo : Mr. Kim) Apink Chorong was a school bully, New recordings and evidence Revealed [+1,956, -53] As expected, the entertainment industry is filled with kids with such dirty personalities~~~~~. It was laughable because a writer had a compilation of problematic things that idol groups did and you can very clearly see the double-standards people have for boy groups and girl groups (even the writer herself). I think its kind of childish and irresponsible to exaggerate information and twist the truth just to justify your own personal dislike for a person, without regard for out it may affect them or their fans. (especially since hes never repeated anything like that.). As Ive said before, Im not a muslim, and I was just going off of what Id seen other muslim bloggers say. I think this is one thing that remains somewhat undecided but considering Baekhyuns track record, I wouldnt put it past him tbh. I cant undo posting it, but I regret it and Im really, genuinely sorry for spreading incorrect information and for any of the fans I upset. The company even took it down same day and cut it out so to make sure that it was offending people. }); Mamamoo's Hwasa has come under fire more than once after accusations of racism and cultural appropriation. But in this case it was obviously red, and drawn the way a clown would wear it. I was around during Queendom for the durag situation but I don't see that a large issue as one of loves Rihanna wearing them and was selling them and promoting them to all races. MEAWW is an initialism for Media Entertainment Arts WorldWide. (I read your tags) I hope you dont mind me reblogging this, If you do please just tell me and Ill delete it. I dont know if youre Korean or not (your blog doesnt say) but if you arent, I consider everything youve said invalid information. ga('ads.send', { **All colorism is bad, but i think its fair to say that whenever Tao or Kai try to deflect colorist comments onto each other, it is usually a form of defence mechanism that stems from internalised colorism. For example, Ryeowook is another suju member I really like, and I dont agree with him using a picture of Yesung in blackface as his twitter icon whatsoever, I think it was incredibly offensive and insensitive and ignorant, but its not something that has caused me to dislike him. The environment that they grew up in is much different than ours; they're surrounded by customs and norms from their own society and culture. Kissed Yewons thighs on We Got Married while carrying her on his shoulders, Persuaded Jackson (GOT7) to accompany him in going into the girls room without permission and rifling through their stuff on episode 45 of SBS Roommate, thanks for not defending the other stuff I guess, okay this is actually the last post I just find it hard to sleep when I dont resolve stuff, An Apology For the Super Junior Masterpost, I wasnt trying to paint suju as bad guys or anything I honestly just wanted to help the people whod be sending me asks, sorry to bring this up again but a few more people reblogged it. But she probably could not have predicted that an #AskHwasa hashtag could have drawn out some of the worst Twitter drags in recent times. Its probably my fault for not communicating that clearly enough though. Yes, I should have included more info and specified where I wasnt knowledgable. Their interactions with their fans and staff members are so sweet and genuine, and they do their best to be inclusive of everyone (like Wheein taking her time to speak to a deaf fan and doing some sign language, Hwasa going on the floor to sign a fan's cast---the list goes on). my bias is varied between moonbyul and solar Hip is one of my most played songs ever You must log in or register to reply here. The song itself did not originally contain the word, but the lyrics Hwasa was using were taken off the Melon website, which did. 6)not excusing it or defending it but [continues to make an excuse for Henry] Sorry, but yes, you are trying to make up excuses for him. You need to Register or Login to view the content. Solar | Moonbyul | Wheein | Hwasa (Purple Backs) Solar | Moonbyul | Wheein | Hwasa (Mint Backs) CD version comes with 3 photocards. I just always feel the need to resolve something when I get into it and I could see where you were coming from (plus you made some valid criticisms) so I thought Id explain myself. They are also one of the very few groups to have not only have won an Immortal Songs episode, but won three separate times with Backwoods, Wonderful Confession, and The Dance In Rhythm (this is typically something only done by veteran singers, as idols competing have to win over an all-age audience). and I know it would've been much, much lower if I didn't force y'all to give the NMIXX songs an average of at least 3.00. The thing that happened next is the thing often referenced the most when discussing Mamamoos past, Hwasa singing the n-word. One tweet asked, "What we feeling today -er or -a? And the answer is simple: Hwasa has been their scapegoat for years now. Everyone is allowed to make mistakes and with those mistakes, come the opportunity to correct them. I have a tendency to get a bit defensive and come across as rude/mocking/patronising/self righteous when I dont mean to, which Im trying to work on, but its hard to tell when Im doing it, so I try to avoid argument a lot. But I wanted to post this just to show that colorism in VIXX is a major problem, it has been happening since debut and has continued up til now, is something that has majorly affected Hakyeon (and is not just "a fun inside joke") and is something that every single other member is guilty of. I will try to work on this in the future because I dont want to portray idols as villains when theyre not actually responsible for what has happened (e.g. Theyre one of my favorite groups and its kind of annoying to see people say that Im not a fan just because I made the post. Please put a * at the end of the message if you don't want it published. Not speaking Korean and being confused about whats true and what isnt? So to me Mamamoo isn't the most problematic groups, they are one of the every few kpop groups that take criticism and acknowledge it and learn from it. Im simply complying a list of things that could be perceived as offensive or problematic so that fans can decide for themselves. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), In response to the criticisms of how I was presenting my information, they are valid criticisms. window.googletag.pubads().addEventListener('impressionViewable', function(event) { Kim Yong-sun (Korean: , born February 21, 1991), better known by the stage name Solar (Korean: ), is a South Korean singer, songwriter and actress signed under RBW.She is the leader and main vocalist of girl group Mamamoo and its sub-unit Mamamoo+. if henry said that the idea of his band mates being gay/transworried him, thats homophobic and transphobic. Um yeah they are just that close that they make fun of each other. She embraces her skin and body, even though it doesn't fit neatly within traditional notions of what is considered 'ladylike' or 'beautiful' according to South Korean standards and prefers to pen songs about empowerment. Mamamoo ( Korean : , stylized in all caps) [2] is a South Korean girl group formed by RBW (formerly WA Entertainment) in 2014, composed of four members: Solar, Moon Byul, Whee In and Hwa Sa. Thanks for posting this. Regardless, a fan who thinks that its not a problem isnt going to hold it against Heechul, the point of the post isnt to make you hate the idols (Heechul is literally one of my ultimate biases) its just supposed to be informative. We will not waver; we will not tire; we will not falter, and we will not fail. hey uh, not a lot of people are anyway (thankfully), but Id really appreciate it if people could stop reblogging the super junior post I made, thatd be fab ty. Ill probably look for another video of the same segment at some point but I dont have time right now. RBW then said they would work to educate themselves more on cultural sensitivity and the struggles that the black community and various other POC communities have undergone and continue to go through. In fact, I really like them. So many public figures coming out and vouching for Mamamoos talent and success only continues to prove their worth and value to the world. omg lol at everything written under heechul. Its kinda iffy, and as a trans & queer person it definitely rubs me the wrong way :-//. Mamamoo Has Been Receiving Hate Storms- And Its Only Getting Worse. },false) Mamamoo Has Been Receiving Hate Storms- And It's Only Getting Worse. My hiatus is indefinite, but its unlikely Ill be running it again any time soon. Posts: 310. 1,891 Rep. 1 Year of Service. 2. Heechul put the scarf on his head as Gain was explaining why she chose to wear hers in a hijab style. They've made mistakes in the past, but they're learning and growing through their experiences. Discover short videos related to mamamoo being problematic on TikTok. Heres the thing- you can not forgive them. Hope that all made sense! Theres no point calling people too sensitive, especially when the stuff pointed out causes many problems, for fans and also the members themselves (for example, Kai has shown numerous times that he is upset by/fed up with the comments on his skin). Others were soon reminding Hwasa once again of her past mistakes, including wearing blackface along with the rest of Mamamoo in a performance where they were parodying Bruno Mars. Anyway, I hope this didnt come across as rude or anything, but I really need to go to sleep now. MAMAMOO's Hwasa is a cast member in the MBS reality show I live Alone (literal translation). window.googletag.cmd.push(function() { A lot of my followers have been a huge help and Ive learned a lot myself. I didnt put in a lack of effort because its Super Junior though, if I had been making a BigBang masterpost instead, that would have been the one with little effort put into it. There are many areas where I am still ignorant and I think I have a bit of an issue with talking over people, a bad habit I really need to break. Watch popular content from the following creators: natalie(@chuusvideogame), matching pfp with @asapminho(@ryyujinnn), Malaiya<3 (@soulspotato__), donnie<3(@twicesring), number one heejin stan(@realchaeyoungpark) . To discuss the bullying and harassment Mamamoo now receives daily, we must first lay out what originally brought out all the hate. kpop problematic carrd! I also included a link to it at the top of the super junior post. Im honestly not trying to tell people that everybody on that list is a problematic asshole, as Ive said before, Heechul is one of my ultimate biases and I dont think hes a problematic asshole. Im glad that people find this blog useful and Im glad some of the posts have helped raise awareness and educate people about the offensive things idols do, but this blog requires a lot of time and energy and knowledge that I just dont have. Honestly there is nothing wrong with what they said. Now you may be wondering, this dating news had absolutely nothing to do with Mamamoo, why were Moos suddenly preparing for a new war against Hwasa hate comments? When people see my profile pic on Instagram and see that I'm a black Moomoo , they always try to use it against me saying that I must not care about the black community if I still support them. You are entitled to your own opinion, and if what Mamamoo has done is considered too ignorant or rude for you to support them anymore, that is 100% in your right to not excuse them for it. My first mistake was actually assuming that the video at the source was still there (because it had been last time I checked) and so I thought people would automatically know that he said it a long time ago judging by the video itself. I didnt mean for this to spiral into an argument at all and I didnt post the post with malicious intent, though I know the intent doesnt matter all that much and that I did make mistakes. The Official MAMAMOO 18+ Thread - The Bar (18+) - OneHallyu Hello everyone, in honor of MAMAMOOs super awesome comeback for their sassy title track, Um Ah Oh Yeh, from their Pinky Funky mini album, I have decided to create a 18+ thread for the sexy ladies of MAMAMOO. Non fans for all the questions, suggestions, reviews, anything. To be honest, I wish Id made the suju post more like the exo one, because the exo one included a lot of the stuff people are criticising me for leaving out of this one. To preface, I love Mamamoo (obviously haha - otherwise I wouldnt be subbed to this community, I guess! i am so so tired. ", And if anybody wants to get brave about their past mistakes, heres a link with receipts and explanations. And while her more recent missteps are nowhere near what she has done in the past, they still, nonetheless, fall in the realm of what many consider offensive. window.googletag.pubads().addEventListener('slotRenderEnded', function(event) { Honestly, I would want the person that I love to be more pretty or more handsome., Culturally appropriated a Native American headdress. I never thought it would gain the traction that it did and I dont feel comfortable running it at the moment, Im sorry. I always try to reblog posts made by the people who are affected and include links in my responses but I havent been so good at keeping my mouth shut when it doesnt involve me, which is something I am going to change in myself. 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